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31.07.'97 - Discussion about Role-Playing in BDSM

jen~**~Net>  the topic is role-playing and i brought it for the fact that someone asked if i thought that the BDSM lifestyle itself is role-playing...imho, i say it is not
role-play = 1) elaboration of one's sexual inclinations by creating a fantasy framework for them. 2) people with compatible sexual fantasies taking on complimentary persona to interact with each other. (defined by the book "Screw The Roses, Send Me The Thorns")
Kahn~@gwen>  personally, I only think that the people here, for the most part, only role play on switch nights
jen~**~Net>  the lifestyle itself is not role-playing for we are subs and Dom's already...it is what we decide to play for that specific night as a scene to make it interesting for both parties
princess>  I agree...it is not "role playing" at all for me
jen~**~Net>  whether it being a nurse, slut, tramp, dog, etc...
princess>  although I do believe that there are roles involved
Netolio>  "role playing" is sometimes used to "set the mood" of a scene.
princess>  *giggling at the thought of jen playing a dog..have seen her as more of a cat myself*
jen~**~Net>  lol
princess>  hehe
bi~anne>  LOL
Netolio>  The Domme, or sub for that matter, can agree to take on a "character" for a particular scene.
jen~**~Net>  again, these are examples and NOT what i've done...LMAO!
Netolio>  LOL
princess>  <-- trying hard to be serious...just giddy
*whispering to jen..sorry..with an outburst of laughter*
Netolio>  <thinking about a dog scene with jen and chuckling wickedly>
jen~**~Net>  (shaking head at princess and laughing)
NOOOOOO Master!
lol
ok, be serious
Netolio>  LMAO!
Kahn~@gwen>  yes Net which is why I said I think that it really only occurs on a night when Dom become subs and vice versa
jen~**~Net>  anyone role played a particular scene?
princess>  perhaps for some this is role playing...I have often wondered if GOR is not one big game
*not putting down Gor..games are ok at times*
Netolio>  Kahn... no, I don't agree that the couples have to "switch" to role-play.. a Domme can become an "inquisitor", "bad cop", "rapist", etc. for a scene.
Kahn~@gwen>  guess there are really two kinds of people, role players and lifestylers
jen~**~Net>  do you think role-playing is a game, princess?
Kahn~@gwen>  true Net
princess>  jen..I think that I do perform roles..but they are part of me... so for me they are not "playing" but living
kat>  it seems that we are talking about two different issues...
jen~**~Net>  aw, good point, Kahn...are they games, or roles or is it the lifestyle itself?
princess>  role-playing is not a bad thing..it is intended to help people experience things they would not always experience
jen~**~Net>  agreed princess
princess>  I agree with kat
*geesh we better be logging this*
kat>  <laughing>
jen~**~Net>  i am and so is Master
princess>  *grin*
Netolio>  <nodding at princess> exactly... the "role-playing" can sometimes be used to act out a fantasy that would not be appropriate in r/t.
kat>  it has happened in the past
Kahn~@gwen>  yes, maybe v/t vs r/t
gwen~Kahn'>  we all assume different roles throughout our days/nights.....be it parent, professional, lover, partner, sub, Dom/me.....
princess>  I know but always like to preserve it kat..
gwen~Kahn'>  and each of these roles comprise who we are.....
jen~**~Net>  yes gwen, but is that not different than playing a BDSM role, such as a cop, nurse, etc?
clair>  I have heard that people can use role play to discover feelings about certain things. For example....the submissive going into the "little girl" mode....has elicited some strong feelings and actually can be theraputic for those that need to "discover their inner child"...sounds corny...but there are people that need to replay their childhood in a way that the outcome is safe....and they feel loved....
Kahn~@gwen>  hi clair *kotc*
princess>  the lifestyle requires more defined roles perhaps
jen~**~Net>  a role is something that you are not already
princess>  no jen..it is but a part of what you are
Kahn~@gwen>  role playing is acting, pure and simple
princess>  agreed Kahn
jen~**~Net>  agreed Kahn
Netolio>  <nodding at Kahn>
bi~anne>  agreed
princess>  but "acting out a fantasy" can be a very good thing
Kahn~@gwen>  good point clair
jen~**~Net>  role playing imho is not being a Dom or a sub...that is who you are already
princess>  I don't see clair's point??
jen~**~Net>  it's the scene that is put forth to discover fantasies
princess>  is she typing?
Netolio>  clair... you're right.. I have also read psych reports that indicate that role-playing can be theraputic.
jen~**~Net>  yes princess, she is
Netolio>  "role-playing" can also be dangerous for the very same reasons that it can be helpful.
jen~**~Net>  but to take that further, clair...unless your Dom is a dr, is it right for him to go that route with you?
princess>  found it sorry.. yes role playing is also used in all different sorts of therapy
from childhood issues to marital ones
jen~**~Net>  is it safe?
Netolio>  those kinds of "roles" should be discussed before the scene begins.
Kahn~@gwen>  if it is v/t it is as safe as you make it
princess>  we used to have one among us...who we sadly lost... that needed just this type of reliving to find who she was
jen~**~Net>  i have to disagree with clair...i don't see how one can go that route with another unless they know and are educated in that situation
clair>  I think that allowing someone to go back and relive something that they desire to "redo" and have faith that the outcome will be in the arms of someone they love and that will bring them back and keep them safe....is not a major danger....
princess>  for some it is not the first time they go there jen..they go over and over
bi~anne>  I agree jen
Kahn~@gwen>  *s* (p)
clair>  People explore whipping eachother and such in a D/s and BDSM relationship and they are not medical doctors nor are they psychiatrists...
Kahn~@gwen>  so role playing is a good way to go somewhere and "explore" a bit?
clair>  submissives give their trust ...mind body and soul to those that don't hold a degree to take it....
Netolio>  yup.
jen~**~Net>  true, but you can become accustomed to the ways of the leather...but the mentality of someone is way deeper than that
princess>  good point clair
clair>  ....and they can in the same vein...rewrite scripts that were ingrained in the past....
Netolio>  clair... is it assumed that the "theraputic" scene example that you used was discussed before the scene began?
Kahn~@gwen>  and make them come out the way you wish clair?
princess>  there are usually two paths to submission..many among us came through a path with lots of pain
jen~**~Net>  question: why would one want to go that route again? a rape scene, for example
princess>  *blowing soft sweet kisses to Peg*
clair>  Of course...the roles have to be defined...so that the role play will go as planned....
princess>  long time no seeeeee
kat>  forgive me everyone...but i'm just not with it tonight...i will have to try this sometime when i'm not so tired...i will see everyone tomorrow i hope...<warm hugs to everyone>
Netolio>  jen... perhaps it is the sub that has asked for that type of scene.
gwen~Kahn'>  bye kat *hugs*
jen~**~Net>  bye kat (hugs)
Kahn~@gwen>  night kat, get some sleep *hugs*
princess>  and some subs do ask for those scenes
bi~anne>  bye kat!
kat>  g'night everyone...
Netolio>  nite kat... take care
princess>  bye kat sweet dreams
clair>  I used to equate rough sex with rape.....
was raped violently at one time...
princess>  not anymore right clair?
clair>  took a long time to rewrite that script so that BDSM was something that could be intimate....
jen~**~Net>  hmmmmmm
clair>  no...not anymore...it rarely comes up....for "rough sex" has been associated with trust...love...and my Master....
being taken unconsentually....is something that has been overcome as well....It's a slow thing....but I now know that I am safe no matter what happens with Peg....
princess>  so BDSM helped you change those old images clair..or just replace them
clair>  Might not feel like it at the moment...and panic may set in....but the end result is love....and being cared for.....every single time.....
Kahn~@gwen>  very good point clair
princess>  I do not have any negative things associated with BDSM... for me it is about other things...but we still explore scenes
particular activities...that are intimate and special
clair>  After a trauma...you tend to think in absolutes....I learned that it isn't absolute....not every man that takes me harshly....is going to hurt me....
Kahn~@gwen>  but exploring is not always role play
jen~**~Net>  <------still having a problem with it being a 'therapeutic' thing
princess>  jen for you it may not be..as it is not for me...but for many it may be
jen~**~Net>  i don't see it as being safe, that's all
clair>  Would you concider BDSM to be theraputic for you jen? Does it have another purpose besides kinky sex?
gwen~Kahn'>  understand the therapeutic value of it.....
princess>  bbs
Netolio>  jen... sometimes "replaying" a scene can help a person "get over it"... maybe it's the "dulling" of the event itself.
Pegasus>  when I vision a scene... or role playing, I see it as being real... I want those emotions to be there.. and to feel it on both sides...
clair>  if it didn't feel as such I would probably giggle all the way through it...*giggle*
Kahn~@gwen>  well Dr's learn in schools and on the job. Dom/me's can study and get on the job too for their experiance
jen~**~Net>  BDSM is many things for me, clair, but to play a role that was harmful to me in the past is just something that i could not see as being a good thing...i mean, unless your Dom is familiar with the mental state of one's body
Kahn~@gwen>  k (p)
clair>  better know your submissive well if you are going to role play with issues like I mentioned...but then again...you should know your submissive well...or Dominant...before tying them up and beating them....issues you don't know about could rear their ugly heads....
Kahn~@gwen>  some things should not be replayed jen
jen~**~Net>  that's my point, clair
clair>  Can happen in just regular scening and not just role play....
emerald~JW>  hello A/all........ *ss* *H* jen and Net
Kahn~@gwen>  hi emerald :)
jen~**~Net>  hiya emerald, glad you came, hon (hugs)
Netolio>  I know where jen is coming from. To replay any event that was painful can be dangerous. IMHO, those kinds of scenes should be avoided unless both parties are very secure with the whole thing.
clair>  sheesh...if something is going to be harmful and you know it..then by all means...don't do it....
Netolio>  hello there emerald! <smiling>
emerald~JW>  hello Kahn and gwen.... *H*
Netolio>  Hello there MISBI! <smiling>
Misbi>  hello Net kotc
jen~**~Net>  welcome MISBI, Ma'am (kotc)
Kahn~@gwen>  hi Misbi! *kiss*
Misbi>  jen dear kotc
hello Kahn kiss
jen~**~Net>  clair, may i ask...do you dress the role when you are playing out a fantasy?
emerald~JW>  hello MISBI Ma'am.... *ss*
jen~**~Net>  and is role-playing something you do regularly?
Misbi>  hello emerald smiles
clair>  I haven't done the little girl thing....*smile*
jen~**~Net>  asking you because i know you are 24/7
clair>  We have "role played" regarding the rape scene
Netolio>  <smile>
clair>  don't need many clothes for that..*giggle*
jen~**~Net>  lol
when you are role-playing, can you explain what you are feeling?
Pegasus>  clair... you dress it everynight... don't you...
clair>  at first it is funny...I will be laughing...
Netolio>  <-- thinks some "props" do enhance the role-play
clair>  I have a hard time "getting into role"
jen~**~Net>  why clair? is it not fun for you?
clair>  We don't do it that often you guys...*giggle*
emerald~JW>  me also clair.... *ss*
Netolio>  hello BlueRose! <smile>
Blue Rose>  howdy i made it did i miss the discussion?
clair>  It's fun...but I know when there are certain feelings that he wants to elicite...and the laughing and that is more uncomfortability and resistance than anything...
jen~**~Net>  we're still discussing, Ma'am...welcome
Netolio>  nope... jump right in there BR!
Kahn~@gwen>  hi BR
Blue Rose>  i must be getting some major lag;(
gwen~Kahn'>  hi emerald...just got back...
emerald~JW>  hello gwen..... *H*
Kahn~@gwen>  wb gwen *kissssssss*
jen~**~Net>  what is the feeling that the Dom gets? (looking to the Dom's for this one)
gwen~Kahn'>  and scrlloed back...
clair>  It is something that I work into slowly...He is usually in role the entire time.....my reactions steadily become more "in tune" with the scene....but that is because the reactions are real.....
gwen~Kahn'>  ty Master kissssss
clair>  But that is how HE wants it....
jen~**~Net>  do you discuss the 'play' beforehand, clair?
Netolio>  The Dom gets the same thing he would normally get, except getting it by playing a different "role" than normal. the end result is the same.
Kahn~@gwen>  guess i missed the question jen
clair>  When He planned a specific rape scene...yes..He discussed it with me...for he knew that it was a touchy area....
jen~**~Net>  was wondering if there was a feeling that you get when 'playing' that you don't get any other time, Sir
Kahn~@gwen>  no, I think it is the same jen
clair>  We have done the fun ones too that didn't touch those "dark" areas....and those we didn't really discuss.....
Kahn~@gwen>  yes (p)
clair>  stripper thing.....
jen~**~Net>  there isn't more of a 'power trip' that you get while role-playing?
clair>  playing the slut for the night....
*cuz I'm not really a slut*...*Giggle*
jen~**~Net>  (smiling at clair)
Kahn~@gwen>  no because it is what i expect i guess
Pegasus>  jen... what do I feel... I am able to fulfill some of the fantasy that I could not otherwise fill. I will admint that the role playing is not a creature of habit with us... If we do role play, I want to incorporate it into realtime situations...
emerald~JW>  giggling at clair... sounds so familiar.....
gwen~Kahn'>  *giggling at clair*
clair>  aahhhhh preparation for the future...*GRIN*
another use of role playing...
jen~**~Net>  is there something you all would not 'play'? for me, it would be the dog scene
clair>  not as intense.....but enables both to get a realistic look at how they would like a future scene to go....
Pegasus>  stripper that wants the patron, slut that wants fucked, professor that needs attention...
emerald~JW>  cant' do animals....>>>>> *frowning*
gwen~Kahn'>  no animals.....
clair>  aahhh...the schoolgirl thing....THAT one I would find hard to get into role....
gwen~Kahn'>  no children....
Kahn~@gwen>  nope, no kids or animal
Netolio>  <grinning at jen wickedly>
jen~**~Net>  (crinkling nose and shaking head)
Blue Rose>  ive not gotton the whole conversation but to me with role playing especially vt well it isnt nesasarily a diferent feeling it is more of a diferent mind set
clair>  Doggies ain't our speed either jen...*smile*
gwen~Kahn'>  <--could play a schoolgirl......will go back to school soon....
emerald~JW>  ohhhh, this is cyber???? not R/T..... giggles!!!!!
jen~**~Net>  not sure i could do the girl thing, either, but definitely not animals
clair>  <---- feeling to old to take that seriously...*giggle*
jen~**~Net>  lol emmy
emerald~JW>  jen is it?????
Blue Rose>  because the things that you type actions requests and so forth you must envision the result in your mind so realy roll playing to me is no diferent
jen~**~Net>  for me it's rt, hon...lol
Netolio>  <nodding in agreement with BR> yes, I would say the "head space" is different. Wouldn't necessarily agree that it is any more or less intense.
emerald~JW>  ok jen..... i was to say..... it's hard to type..... and i'm not a writer... *ss*
jen~**~Net>  clair, if you were more vt than rt, would you do the dog scene?
or anyone else?
clair>  no
jen~**~Net>  neither would i
clair>  I have never done anything VT that I wouldn't do RT
emerald~JW>  jen..... can't do animals hun,,,,,,, ???
Netolio>  LOL
jen~**~Net>  no way!
Kahn~@gwen>  did a "dog" type thing v/t once but i used magic to change her into a person
jen~**~Net>  i can purrrrrr, but not bark...lol
Netolio>  mmmmmm....
gwen~Kahn'>  <--not with me......
jen~**~Net>  (giggling at Master)
emerald~JW>  giggles....... Kahn.....
Kahn~@gwen>  nope, before i met you
gwen~Kahn'>  did you get it out of your system Sir?
clair>  Peg tried to get me to drink out of a bowl one time, and I just started crying....that was early on...but I got the "doggie" thing stuck in my head and it was too humiliating....
Kahn~@gwen>  was a long running e-mail story, will tell you all about it this weekend
emerald~JW>  animals or playing dog???
Kahn~@gwen>  the other person was my "pet" and cause I wanted a mate i changed her into a person
jen~**~Net>  uhmmmmm, not sure how i would have reacted to that, clair
Pegasus>  thinking about animals... I can't envision role playing animals... or looking at my pet as a 'pet'....
Blue Rose>  hey i guess thats works you got what you wanted:)
emerald~JW>  ok i could do i be the dog.... possibly but(dogs love thier Masters) but, i could 'nt do the animals........
Pegasus>  I can however see that when it's time for the Dominant to take it... that same basic instinct exitsts among humans
jen~**~Net>  you could?
Blue Rose>  with out totally humiliating them by turning them into a person
jen~**~Net>  lol...emmy is confused, i think
Kahn~@gwen>  it was a fantasy story, thats all
jen~**~Net>  we're talking about being animals, not doing them, silly
ewwwwwww!!!!!!
Netolio>  LOL
Blue Rose>  LOL
clair>  *giggle*
Kahn~@gwen>  lol
emerald~JW>  oh..... ya i can be the dog....
gwen~Kahn'>  yuck!!!!!!!
jen~**~Net>  bark, emmy! LOL
emerald~JW>  but i can't do the dog.....
arrrrf!!!!!!! yap yap....
jen~**~Net>  lol
Netolio>  emerald... but can you squeel like a pig? <wicked grin>
Blue Rose>  too funny
jen~**~Net>  ya did that well, i'll be sure to send this log to JW (giggling)
Pegasus>  clair.... what or who can you see being... "role playing"...
emerald~JW>  Net..... Sir..... it is possible.....
Netolio>  <smiling at emerald>
clair>  gawd...you know this is hard for me...*giggle*
emerald~JW>  he would love that jen........
jen~**~Net>  how far as a dog would you go, though?
clair>  I am not a fan of role playing....
emerald~JW>  ooops.... He..... even....
clair>  its just hard for me...
emerald~JW>  well, it would depend..... give me an extreme.....
Pegasus>  but, mayhap it is a way of introducing you to desires that I have pent up inside of me clair????
jen~**~Net>  eating out of a bowA?
bowl, even
Kahn~@gwen>  so bottom line is we can all role play but also real play?
clair>  of course I would do my best to "go along" with it...like always....
jen~**~Net>  role playing is just a way to experience a fantasy, imho
Netolio>  <nodding with Kahn> absolutely
emerald~JW>  sure,,,,,,, jen,,,, it would 'nt be that terrible.....
jen~**~Net>  you're brave, emmy
(smiling)
hmmmm, would being with another woman role-playing, then?
emerald~JW>  jen..... i have a good Master .... and he is very dear to me.....
jen~**~Net>  if that's a fantasy?
Pegasus>  is it jen, maybe I desire my pet to become comfortable, and will expect her to perform these acts in public... or in the future
jen~**~Net>  i know he is, hon (smiling)
Blue Rose>  i dont think i would or could ask a sub or slave to be an animal maybe animal like;) but not an animal
Netolio>  even in "role-play" a sub's limits would be respected. being out of "character" would not give anyone the right to push someone further than they can be taken.
Pegasus>  clair, I know you do your best... smile.
emerald~JW>  *ss* .... i have no fear at all that he would hurt me... in any way ......
jen~**~Net>  i'm sorry Pegasus, Sir...i didn't quite understand what you said
so with that said, emmy...do you not have any limits?
emerald~JW>  well, that is what it would come to i'm sure...... BR
clair>  being with another woman......hhhmmmm....I think that it is all in how you see it...If it's role play...then it's not taken as part of the relationship as a whole....it's not "real"...now if you brought another woman in and that was to be part of the relationship dynamic...it wouldn't be role play...but an extension of the relationship....
whoa
emerald~JW>  yes, i do..... jen..... children /animals/ and not sure about groups yet....
Pegasus>  that's alright jen.... I don't know if I knew what I was trying to say... chuckle
jen~**~Net>  (giggling at Pegasus)
judys>  Hi, all...what is the topic today?
emerald~JW>  hello judys...... welcome... '
jen~**~Net>  hi judy, welcome...we're discussing role-playing, hon
Netolio>  Pegasus... I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one that does that! <smiling>
Kahn~@gwen>  hi judy :)
Pegasus>  thinking about clairs last post
Blue Rose>  Peg i think you brain was speaking perfectly fine your fingers just werent enterpreting well;)
jen~**~Net>  lol
clair>  ~shakinmyhead~ cuz that was NOT a wishlist....
Netolio>  lol
judys>  i am about to spend my first weekend in role play scenes
Kahn~@gwen>  lmao
emerald~JW>  giggle
jen~**~Net>  you excited, judy?
Kahn~@gwen>  r/t judy?
emerald~JW>  what about bringing others in???
jen~**~Net>  not for me, emmy
judys>  Yes, jen, i actually am...
jen~**~Net>  how do you define role-playing, judy?
gwen~Kahn'>  is hard to do......bring others in.....
emerald~JW>  it is hard.... and We have discussed it and not acted on it .......
jen~**~Net>  shoot, for me a camera is another...lol
judys>  playing the little girl
emerald~JW>  jen....... *got those*
clair>  ~sounds like a good topic for another conference~
emerald~JW>  what is that clair?
Netolio>  hmmmm... lol
gwen~Kahn'>  cameras ot little girls clair?
clair>  bringing others in....second slaves...etc....
judys>  i know a couple that switch in their D/s activity and they have a full-time live in sub that they both dom
Kahn~@gwen>  how about second Dom/Me's clair?
clair>  OoOhh!! Now THAT would be somethng to talk about Kahn!!!
emerald~JW>  yes..... i don't think they would be Master slave but, we have been in situations with others slaves... and i don't think either one of Us was ready for that.......*ss*
clair>  ~ahem~
gwen~Kahn'>  that is still hard to do clair......
Pegasus>  Yes... I would love to attend a conference on 2nd's... chuckling
Kahn~@gwen>  how about a Dom, Domme, and a sub?
clair>  ~rollingmyeyes~
gwen~Kahn'>  doorbell
emerald~JW>  clair did we get off the subject.?
clair>  There is one that I know of that I could do that with Kahn...
jen~**~Net>  emmy, do you regret the experience?
Kahn~@gwen>  always the door when things get too close to home *g*
clair>  Yessssssssssss we did....
Blue Rose>  that is an intresting idea Kahn
clair>  and as I said...GREAT topic for another conference....*GRIN*
Kahn~@gwen>  have done it, it is interesting
jen~**~Net>  (nodding in agreement with clair)
emerald~JW>  no i don't but, i wish that i had been more prepared.... ya know....
Blue Rose>  i was once in an arange ment where another dom and myself shared a sub but never did we all scene togeter
Netolio>  jen... make a note! <smiling>
Blue Rose>  together even;)
jen~**~Net>  (taking notes)
Kahn~@gwen>  don't know what you missed BR
lillee>  <slipping into the room>
jen~**~Net>  hiya sis!
gwen~Kahn'>  back
Kahn~@gwen>  hi lillee 8kotc*
lillee>  hey sis! <hugs> i'm at crystal's house...lol
Netolio>  hello lillee! <smiles>
jen~**~Net>  thought so...lol
lillee>  Hello Kahn <kotc>
Ohhh, hi Net, Sir <kotc>
lol\
emerald~JW>  *H* lillie..... *SS*
Netolio>  <kotc to lillee>
gwen~Kahn'>  hi lillee *s*
lillee>  {{{{{{{emerald}}}}
nice crowd <smiling>
Blue Rose>  between me and the other dom we prob would have worn em out to fast;)
Kahn~@gwen>  lol BR
emerald~JW>  giggle BR...... *ss*
jen~**~Net>  clair, has Pegasus ever allowed you to roleplay under a Dom type persona?
Pegasus>  shaking my head....
no
jen~**~Net>  oooops! (giggling)
clair>  nope
*giggle*
emerald~JW>  i don't know if i could fill those shoes.... *ss*
Blue Rose>  hi ((((((((((((((((lillee))))))))))))))))))))0
jen~**~Net>  wb Master!!
gwen~Kahn'>  would not want to.......
Netolio>  <dusting off butt> thanks jen!
judys>  Hi, lillee!!
emerald~JW>  what about you jen??
lillee>  {{{{{{{Rose}}}}}} hi Ma'am <smiling and a kotc, debating about a snowball, shaking head> not now <grin>
hi judys!!! <hugs>
jen~**~Net>  my Master and i have not role-played in rt yet, emmy
emerald~JW>  ooops..... sorry,...
Gryphon>  Hi all ...
jen~**~Net>  i want to when i'm there in a few days, though!
Netolio>  hello Gryphon! <smiling>
emerald~JW>  well, what about.... in V/T
giggle....... *ss*
Blue Rose>  this wouldnt be the proper time lillee;)
jen~**~Net>  yes emmy, we have...i enjoy playing the slut role
Netolio>  jen... already have one thought up! <smiling wickedly>
Blue Rose>  but maybe later;)
jen~**~Net>  Hello Gryphon, welcome
emerald~JW>  jen..... Master has offered..... but, i think i'm still to new..... *ss*
lillee>  mmmmm, slut's always good <grin>
Gryphon>  hi Jen, Netolio
as a nickname??? <g>
jen~**~Net>  hmmmmmmm, which one, Master?
Pegasus>  take care people.... gone
jen~**~Net>  be well Pegasus, Sir
Netolio>  nite Pegasus... be well
gwen~Kahn'>  bye Peg Sir!
Kahn~@gwen>  be well Peg
emerald~JW>  night Peg SIr....
Netolio>  jen... the tramp, slut role is hot... <smiling>
clair>  ~wavewavewavin~ might be back...we will seeeeeeeeeeeee
LaTeR GaToRs....
jen~**~Net>  byeeeeeeeeee clair!
Netolio>  bye clair! see ya soon
emerald~JW>  later clair.....*H*
gwen~Kahn'>  bye claire *hugs*
jen~**~Net>  (smiling and nodding at Master)
Kahn~@gwen>  hummm. thanks for the idea Net
lillee>  Bye Pegasus <waving and smiling>
bye clair, see you soon <hug>
Kahn~@gwen>  bye clair
jen~**~Net>  emmy, which role have you thought of, hon?
gwen~Kahn'>  ohhhhhhh.....nuther idea?
Netolio>  Kahn... np!
Kahn~@gwen>  got lots gwen *eg*
jen~**~Net>  who's Gryphon?
Kahn~@gwen>  gwen. do you have a role you wish to explore?
emerald~JW>  the slutty virgin......
jen~**~Net>  (looking at gwen and giggling) yeah, which one is it?
gwen~Kahn'>  hmmmmmmm..........let me think on it.....
so many roles...so little time......
Kahn~@gwen>  lol gwen
emerald~JW>  really.... gwen... *Ss
jen~**~Net>  emmy, a slutty virgin? is that possible?
lol
gwen~Kahn'>  uh huh.....
Kahn~@gwen>  getting out paper and pen
lillee>  lol
oxymoron?
Blue Rose>  jen i think it translates to tease;)
jen~**~Net>  lol
lillee>  mmmm, teasing can be fun....and dangerous <grin>
emerald~JW>  yep.... i want to do it.... but, i'm too good...... than all of a sudden i get the hang of it.... *giggle*
gwen~Kahn'>  think my halloweeen costumes are usually a rilo play......
jen~**~Net>  LMAO emmy!
gwen~Kahn'>  role play even
jen~**~Net>  you're too cute!
emerald~JW>  thank you BR
Kahn~@gwen>  going to bring any this weekend?
Shavah~~~~>  after a brief hiatus I am back.....Hello everyone..
jen~**~Net>  careful gwen! LOL
lillee>  w/b Shavah <smiling and a kotc>
jen~**~Net>  Hello Shavah, Sir (kotc) it's great to see you again!
Kahn~@gwen>  wb Shavah
emerald~JW>  thanks jen..... i'm a good tease.... but, you know i always want the outcome... *ss*
Shavah~~~~>  nice to see you as well jen *kotc*
hi Kahn..
gwen~Kahn'>  which would you prefer? the pirate wench? or the clown? or the black cat?
Shavah~~~~>  and lillee.*S*
jen~**~Net>  lol gwen
Kahn~@gwen>  wench, definatly
gwen~Kahn'>  the gypsy maybe?
emerald~JW>  hello SHavah...
lillee>  <smiling at Shavah>
Blue Rose>  i personally like to tease myu subs in a way its torture ;)
Kahn~@gwen>  arrr matey
jen~**~Net>  seems the Doms agree on the slut/tramp/wench role?
Netolio>  Kahn... we need pics of this weekend btw! <wink>
emerald~JW>  you and Master would get alon very well than....... BR..... *giggle*
Blue Rose>  watch there bodysquiver with anticipation .....hmmmmmmmmmmmmm:)
Shavah~~~~>  hello emerald...
Kahn~@gwen>  taking my camera Net
lillee>  i love to taltilize, tease, then surrender
Shavah~~~~>  stw...well that is nice ..
Netolio>  <nodding at Kahn> kewl!
gwen~Kahn'>  think so jen...but i must have liked that role myself...wore it for 2 halloween parties!!!
gary©~Rebe>  shudders
jen~**~Net>  lol gwen
i looooooooove to tease!
emerald~JW>  hello gary.... *H*
Shavah~~~~>  lillee..surrender?....or be taken?
jen~**~Net>  gets me in trouble sometimes, though
lillee>  yes, Shavah <grin> mostly taken...completely
jen~**~Net>  (looking up at Master)
Netolio>  hmmmmm... but you love trouble jen! <grin>
Kahn~@gwen>  was a nurse with a beard once, no dates resulted though, boobs too small
gwen~Kahn'>  but....but.....but....wouldn't want you to break your camera Master.....
Blue Rose>  well hello there gary:)
Shavah~~~~>  *S*..I thought so.
lillee>  <giggling>
jen~**~Net>  lol Kahn!
(nodding at Master)
Netolio>  LMAO!
gary©~Rebe>  hello Blue Roae Ma'am
Blue Rose>  oh god.......
Netolio>  wb gary! <s>
Kahn~@gwen>  have more than one camera gwen, maybe the cam corder....
jen~**~Net>  wb gary! (hugs)
Shavah~~~~>  lacey will be here shortly....
gary©~Rebe>  Rose too'
Kahn~@gwen>  wb gary
Blue Rose>  Kahn you can where my uniform next time;)
emerald~JW>  cam corder..... *LOL*
jen~**~Net>  hmmmmmm, you don't have a camcorder do you, Master?
Netolio>  but of course jen! <smiling>
Kahn~@gwen>  have my own BR, extra tall size 12, hate the nylons though
gary©~Rebe>  <---likes to be teased
jen~**~Net>  rut roh!
emerald~JW>  hidden in the walls.... jen.... ROTF*
Shavah~~~~>  camcorders are great once you get past he fact it is you on the screen..
jen~**~Net>  thanks emmy! (poking you)
Netolio>  <nodding at emerald>
Blue Rose>  well i dont where nylons cause i wear pants
gwen~Kahn'>  did this stuff once with a camcorder.....
lillee>  no camcorders...NONONO...lol
Netolio>  lol
emerald~JW>  jen.. giggles..... just hide you face..... *ss*
lillee>  <---- is glad Master isn't here for that idea
jen~**~Net>  no pics, no cameras
Kahn~@gwen>  oh? care for a repeat gwen?
lillee>  exactly, sis <grin>
emerald~JW>  jen.... pics are fun.....
jen~**~Net>  no SEX if there is!
LOL
Netolio>  jen... I'll edit them and put those tacky black boxes over certain "places"! LMAO!
emerald~JW>  *ROTF jen*
gwen~Kahn'>  not really....when i later asked for the tape...He did not know where it was....
lillee>  lol sis
emerald~JW>  *LOL*
lillee>  <laughing with Net>
Kahn~@gwen>  you just put a black piece of tape over your eyes that way no one knows who you are...
Shavah~~~~>  censorship lives!!
jen~**~Net>  LMAO!
Netolio>  lol
jen~**~Net>  too funny!
emerald~JW>  i have one out there somewhere..... and somewhere .... it is... was years ago..
Shavah~~~~>  just NOT in my house...
lillee>  no way...if she can identify Clinton's cock, i ain't going there....lol
Shavah~~~~>  LOL
jen~**~Net>  OH MY!!!!!!!
Kahn~@gwen>  lol lillee
emerald~JW>  *LOL*
jen~**~Net>  LMAO sis!
Netolio>  no kidding lillee! LOL
gwen~Kahn'>  mine too emmy....
lillee>  <grin>
gwen~Kahn'>  no one would recognize me now...thank god!!!!
jen~**~Net>  Master, would you allow me to role play as a Dom?
(laughing)
emerald~JW>  keep looking in viedo stores when we rent movies.... *>LOL*
jen~**~Net>  lol emmy
Netolio>  NO! <grinning at jen>
Kahn~@gwen>  think I saw it gwen, cost me 29 quarters
jen~**~Net>  hmmmmmmmm
emerald~JW>  hoping no-one would reconize me..
gwen~Kahn'>  at least it wasn't only 2....that way the real pervs won't see it.....
Kahn~@gwen>  lol gwen
gwen~Kahn'>  well...as interesting as this is.....
emerald~JW>  no doubt..... if i were in the quarter movies and the bookstore i would die!!!
Kahn~@gwen>  yes we seem to have finished the disscussion
gwen~Kahn'>  i must go....need to bake peanut butter cookies....
jen~**~Net>  be cheaper for you to buy them up, emmy...LOL
Kahn~@gwen>  ummmmmmmm who for gwen?
gary©~Rebe>  zzzzz
jen~**~Net>  (tickling gary)
Kahn~@gwen>  *tosses bucket of ice water on gary*
gary©~Rebe>  jumps
emerald~JW>  no doubt... i told Master just in case it popped up somewhere..... he was upset but, than again i think He would like to see it.... *LOL*
Netolio>  Question for everyone... is this night (Thursday) a good one for "discussion night"??
gwen~Kahn'>  the deer at lost antler acres?
gary©~Rebe>  ooowww
lillee>  <nudging gary, grinning> careful!
Kahn~@gwen>  *smile* love you gwen
Shavah~~~~>  works for me..
gwen~Kahn'>  actually have 10 more minutes.....
Kahn~@gwen>  yes thursday is good for me Netjen~**~Net> http://members.tripod.com/~SirAsh/BDSM.html is the addy to this conference and there on the Conference Info page is a place to add yourself to the mailing list, if you are not already on it...this list is kept confidential and is used to inform you of upcoming events!
gwen~Kahn'>  and i you Master *soft smile*
emerald~JW>  yes.... i like the idea..... and i really love this room Y/you all.......!!!! thank E/everyone....
jen~**~Net>  Of course, we are always looking for people to be put in the 'hot chair' to lead us into other discussions! Suggestions or comments are also welcome and can be done on the conference's homepage, as well. Thank you for attending and we hope that you join us regularly and can one day call this your 'home away from home'! (smiling)
Shavah~~~~>  *surveys the room*...I think we need more soab boxes though...
Netolio>  thanks Shavah! <s>
Kahn~@gwen>  need a topic for next week
jen~**~Net>  i think we may have one already, Kahn, Sir (looking at my Master)
Kahn~@gwen>  course i could just talk about my weekend
lillee>  soap boxes? Hmmm, how about whipping posts...lol
Shavah~~~~>  ok...how much is TO MUCH?
Netolio>  Kahn... I will volunteer to lead a discussion about "contracts" next week.
Kahn~@gwen>  ok, very good Net
lillee>  wonderful, Net, Sir <msiling>
gwen~Kahn'>  contracts......
emerald~JW>  good one....!!!! Net..... Sir.....
Netolio>  "D/s contracts" that is!
Kahn~@gwen>  fits in with Shavahs topic too
gwen~Kahn'>  hmmmmmm....... *pulling out my law books*
jen~**~Net>  lol gwen
Shavah~~~~>  *mind reader*
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